So, looks like when they went into inventory to get the gauge, barrel length and stock dimensions you wanted the engraving was a crap shoot. You may receive a B with a different design of border or a duck or a dog in place of the two quail, or a dog pointing game, we cannot tell as it is our aim to give a variety of designs. We do not guarantee that every B grade gun will be engraved from just the same design but endeavor to have about the same amount of engraving on each.
The cut of the Baker hammerless gun as shown here was made from one of the regular B grade guns picked from our stock on hand and is a fair sample of the engraving we put on these guns. There is some interesting text about the engraving on the B- and A-grades. They state that the normal engraving is scroll, dogs, and game but could be all scroll, scroll and dogs or scroll and game. They state that they introduced the Paragon about two years ago, but have been so busy with the lower priced guns that they havent devoted the time and energy they should have in bringing it to the notice of the shooting public. There is a half a sentence that eludes to higher priced guns built to special order. May 1900 - At this date they only appeared to offer 5 guns - Model 1897 hammer gun with twist barrels 25 net, Model 1897 Hammer gun with Damascus barrels 27.80 net, the B-Grade with London Damascus twist barrels for 35 net, the A-Grade with Fine Four-Blade Damascus barrels 42.75 net, and the Paragon Grade with fine four-blade Damascus barrels with extra fine figure 60 net. Hollenbeck had three patents granted while he was in Batavia and two are assigned to the Baker Gun Forging Co.įrom your brief description it sounds like you have a Baker B-grade. When the plant in Syracuse burned and they moved operations to Batavia, W.H.īaker was ill with TB and they brought in Frank A. If you want more pictures, please send me your email.Even the trigger-plate hammer gun built first in Syracuse and then later in Batavia was designed by A.C. I can drive to Champaign or Decatur or Peoria or Springfield or Pontiac to meet you halfway. Located in Bloomington, Illinois, just like Henry Blake on MASH. If you want, shoot me an email and I can email you more pics. Or just see below for the pics I have loaded here. You can do this by following this link, and then changing the last 2 numbers from "03" to anything from "01" to "21": I believe you can scroll through my PHOTOBUCKET album to see all 21 pics of the gun. This is OLD, and and the info I have found on the internet says that you don't want to shoot a gun this old unless checked by a gunsmith first.an expert gunsmith who knows these old guns and can tell you if it is safe. This has a chip to the lower portion of the buttplate and the wood (toe?) at that point of the stock. It has some small chips to the wood near the trigger guard. This gun has plenty of wear, and a light patina, and a few little rust spots in the one photo near the forearm. So based on the above, I believe this is a 1909 - 1919 gun. About 150,000 Baker guns were produced prior to the Folsom ownership. was closed in 1930 and the factory started making car parts. By 1932 they had no more Baker Guns.īaker Gun Co. 23, 25, and 31 (1929-1930) only list the Batavia Leader and Black Beauty Special.
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Folsom era Bakers usually have an F before or after the serial numbers 1- about 14,000 so again, I believe this one is before that. Grades for these Folsom owned Baker Guns were the "Batavia Leader," "Black Beauty Special," "Paragon," "Expert," and "DeLuxe."įolsom listed the Black Beauty Special for $62 -$77 with ejectors, the Paragon $100 -$115, the Expert for $215, and the DeLuxe for $385. Baker did offer a "Batavia Leader" however. Folsom in 1919 and then the guns were marked "Baker Gun Co." As this one is not, I assume it is earlier than that. Now, Baker Gun & Forging sold the business to H.& D. This one is 786XX, which puts it in the early days.
#Baker batavia special serial numbers series
The Batavia Leader number series were from 75,000 to about 106,000. The sidelock "Black Beauty" replaced the Batavia Special, Leader, and Damascus guns about 1916. The Batavia line did not have the "firing pin block safety" or the "draw block" which passes through the barrel lug and into the frame. This gun in the pics is the BATAVIA LEADER as you can see. They had, in 1909, "The Baker Gunner," the "Batavia Leader" with twist barrels at $25, the "Batavia Special" with steel barrels at $21.75, the "Batavia Damascus" at $28, the "Batavia Brush" at $24, the "Batavia Ejector" at $35. had a line of double barrel shotguns, sidelocks, called Batavia guns in 1903.
This was made between 19, I believe, made in Batavia, New York. This is a BAKER BATAVIA LEADER double-barrel shotgun.
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